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From Crust to Community: What New York Pizza Taught Us About Good Dough

Even if your hands are happiest shaping sourdough, Paulie Gee's talk on pizza reveals key truths about ingredients and process that apply to every loaf.

King Arthur Baking CompanyRogue BakersJul 17, 20263 min read0 views

Now, when you hear the word 'pizza,' your mind might wander to something far from the tangy embrace of a good sourdough loaf. You might picture bright red sauce, melted cheese, and a crisp, foldable slice. But even when we're talking about something as distinctly *un*-sourdough as New York pizza, there are some bedrock truths about good baking that shine through, truths that any dedicated rogue baker needs to hear.

I spent some time watching Martin visit Paulie Gee’s shops, and while the focus was on the perfect slice, I kept listening for the whispers of flour, fermentation, and the sheer stubbornness required to make something truly great. It got me thinking about how much we, the folks here on the Sovereign, are obsessed with the *why* behind our crumb structure.

The Unshakeable Pillars of Great Baking

Paulie and Martin talked a heap about ingredients—Stanislaus tomatoes, good mozzarella, and the importance of the flour itself. It’s a reminder, isn't it? Whether you’re building a magnificent artisan bread or a perfect slice, you can’t cut corners on the basics.

When they discussed the process, especially the 're-crisping' of slices, it wasn't just about heat; it was about *timing* and *temperature*. It’s the same principle we wrestle with when we’re figuring out the perfect proofing schedule for a new levain build. Too hot, and you burn the delicate structure; too cool, and you lose that vital lift.

Flour Matters, Mate (Seriously)

One of the most telling moments was the advice about using the right flour for different parts of the process. They warned about using regular flour for deck work, saying it'll just burn. It struck me: we bakers are always fussing over the right blend, the right hydration, the right mix of whole grain to white. It’s not just about throwing flour at the problem; it’s about knowing what that flour *wants* to do.

It’s a culture thing, this baking. It’s about respecting the process enough to listen to the experts, even if they're talking about pepperoni instead of rye.

The Spirit of 'My Way'

What really resonated, though, was the sentiment of 'I didn't want to follow their rules.' That spirit—the desire to make what *you* love, the way *you* know is best—that’s the heart of the rogue bakers movement. It’s about taking established techniques, learning them inside out, and then twisting them until they sing for *your* kitchen.

It’s a good reminder that whether you're wrestling with the wild yeast in your starter or perfecting a crust, confidence comes from deep knowledge, not just following a recipe card. Don't be afraid to experiment, but understand the *science* behind why that experiment might fail. That's where the real learning happens.

If you're ready to take that passion for process and put it to the test, we've got the perfect place for you. Why not jump into the 30-Day Sourdough Challenge? It’s a structured way to test those fundamentals and build your confidence, whether you're aiming for a perfect crumb or just want to know your halo rating on a new bake.

Frequently Asked Questions

The experts suggested 2 to 3 minutes, but it might need a little longer for the thicker Sicilian styles.

One baker mentioned that Neapolitan style is a specific approach, but the key takeaway was that you shouldn't feel forced to follow rigid rules if you know what you love.

They advised against using regular flour for deck work, suggesting that specific flours, like semolina, are better suited to toast rather than burn.

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