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Beyond the Loaf: Taking Your Baking Skills to Savory Pies

Thinking your sourdough skills only apply to bread? Think again. We're looking at savory pies and the different crusts that make 'em sing.

Food52Rogue BakersAug 16, 20263 min read0 views

Now, when you hear 'baking,' your mind probably drifts straight to the comforting rise of a good sourdough loaf, right? That perfect, crackly crust, the tangy crumb—that's where our hearts live, out here in the Rogue Bakers community.

But listen up, you lot. If you think all this wild yeast magic and beautiful fermentation is the *only* thing we can do with flour and good butter, well, you've got a bit of a skewed view of what a kitchen can achieve. Sometimes, the best things come wrapped up in a pastry shell.

We’ve been looking at savory pies lately, and it’s got us thinking about how versatile these dough skills really are. It’s not just about the *sourdough* starter; it’s about understanding the structure beneath the topping.

Crusts You Should Know: More Than Just Butter

The video we checked out covered a heap of things—fillings, techniques, the whole shebang. But what really caught the eye, for us bakers who appreciate structure, were the different crusts. When we’re making a loaf, we’re dealing with gluten development and hydration for a strong crumb. With a pie, it’s a different beast entirely.

Erin McDowell mentioned a few things that are worth passing on to the community. She talked about the standard all-butter pie dough—simple, no sugar, perfect for savory stuff. But then she brought up two beauties: the Rough Puff and Pâte Brisée.

The Flake Factor: Rough Puff

The Rough Puff, she said, is a winner for free-form pies. It gives you a flaky, shatteringly tender crust that’s supportive. It sounds a bit like a fancy cousin to puff pastry, but it’s worth paying attention to if you’re moving beyond basic bread baking.

The Workhorse: Pâte Brisée

Now, the Pâte Brisée. This one seemed particularly useful for us intermediate bakers. She noted that because the fat is incorporated a bit more fully, it yields a crust that is tender, has a little flake, but crucially, it boasts a lot of sturdiness. And the trick with the water? She pointed out that because the fat is doing some of the hydrating work, you often need *less* moisture than you think you do. Don't just eyeball it; listen to the dough!

It’s a good reminder, isn't it? Every dough, whether it’s built around a wild yeast culture or a pile of cold butter, needs its own set of rules. You can’t just slap the same hydration ratio on everything and expect miracles.

Baking Lessons: It’s All About the Structure

This whole process—from the dough handling to the fillings—is a masterclass in structural integrity. When we’re troubleshooting a loaf, we’re thinking about oven spring and steam. When we’re looking at a pie, we’re thinking about *support* and *flakiness*.

It’s not a failure if the first attempt at a savory pie looks a bit messy; it’s just data. You learn what the dough can handle, what the filling demands, and how your oven reacts. That's the heart of being a baker, whether you're making a boule or a tartlet.

If you want to keep honing those foundational skills—the ones that apply whether you’re scoring a loaf or crimping a crust—you need consistent practice. Don't let the sourdough routine lull you into thinking your skills are only sourdough-specific.

For those keen to take their baking explorations to the next level, there are some fantastic resources right here on the Sovereign.ink network. If you're ready to tackle a new challenge, why not sign up for the 30-Day Sourdough Challenge? It’ll sharpen those foundational skills, and trust me, those skills transfer everywhere.

Frequently Asked Questions

The video suggests using the plain all-butter pie dough for savory pies, but it's always good to check the specific recipe's guidance.

The goal is for the dough to come together into a ball around the blade, but it shouldn't be totally smooth or super sticky.

Erin McDowell suggested thinking outside traditional pie plates and using skillets or baking pans for different serving sizes.

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